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Lopezfam
03-15-2006, 01:57 PM
Hello I am new to the site and already have problems

I have a 3 month old pup we bought from a pet store he is a beagle pug mix a pugle. He is very smart but and here it comes we try to take him as much as we can so he could poop outside but he won't. but as soon as we get inside he runs around like mad and poops. we have now gotten used to knowing when he wants to go but even when we take him he still won't go. I am in Ohio and it's cold I wonder if that has anything to do with it. Next he won't eat not the food the pet store gave us not the one we bought. but he will eat his treats. we are now letting him go in his crate wich he seems to hate even when we put him in at night. he cries and cries last night I couldn't take it so he slept in bed with me and my husband. He usually sleeps in my son's room.
so how do I get him to eat
how do i get him to like going outside
how do i get him to like his crate
My husband bought a puppy book but i'ts going to take sometime to come am impatient

RedyreRottweilers
03-15-2006, 02:09 PM
1) Pet store puppies can be very difficult to housetrain as they are kept in cages with grates and don't have to keep clean. They are also usually separated from their littermates too early so they can be in the storefront window at the cutest age to encourage impulse buyers like yourself.

2) search the training forum for my piece on housetraining, and puppy raising 101. There is also a good one called The Recall Game. Read the stickies at the top of this forum, and the training forum.

3) search out a puppy training class in your area and enroll immediately.

B33CPE
03-15-2006, 03:23 PM
Pet store puppies can be hard to house train because MOST are from puppie mills and live their entire lives in cages and in filth. Alot of people dont know this. Anyhow, about this house training, whenever he starts sniffing like he is looking for a place to go take him out immediately, and when he does go potty in the house tell him "NO" and take him outside even if you dont think he needs to go anymore. Being from a pet store he probably hasnt spent much time outside of his cage so i guess the out doors may make him nervous. If you really want to crate train him you need to just deal with the crying, try putting an alarm clock(one that ticks) with him or maybe a stuffed animal to make it more cozy. mine always cried at first, but they got used to it and would go strait to sleep. What kind of dog food are you feeding? (talk to Mordy about dog food) Maybe you should try a different kind or mix canned food with it. Good Luck

B33CPE
03-15-2006, 03:25 PM
Oh yeah dont use the crate for punishment ever, the crate should be a positive thing

Violet21
03-17-2006, 05:31 AM
i guess your dog is too small but, i also have a 3.5 month old pup we just got 2 days ago. I used the same method i did with my other dog, a golden named Zac. I put a comfy pillow in the crate, (a dog pillow) and his toys, and get in it with him and pet him and give him some treats. The first night we really had tp coax him in and when he wouldn't for about a half hour we gently lifted him in and i cuddled him. Now, he is a big puppy, already 41 lbs, and he will be a huge dog so his crate is huge.

The second night, he walked into the crate right away by himself to come cuddle me. more treats (not too much) and toys and pets.

Tonight he was going in and out, playing and being a goof. I barely sat in it and he was in, snuggling down. I sat on the outside and pet him, putting my arms and hands in.

All three nights he has been fine not making a peep all night till morning and not peeing or pooping in the crate. We have it beside the bed so we can dangle a finger but so far he just is happy knowing we are in the room and we have not had to dangle our fingers.

He crys and howls if we leave the room tho. This is a leftover instinct that wolfs have today, when a pup is left alone is screams so its pack can find him. Otherwise, he could certainly be killed or die.. :)
There really isn't a whole lot of ways to stop this except time.. its nice for the pup if he can be in the same room at least for a while.. :)

Since your dog is small, and his crate is probably tiny, try playing tossing things in, having him run in toss treats in and put your arms and hands in try to get him to settle in there while you pet him and talk to him and praise him.

It will make the crate seem like a very good place to be! :)

the poo and pee thing takes time. If yoiu catch him in the act, say NO firmly and look at his eyes. Take him outside instantly and encourage him to finish.
If he does, praise ALOT and make him feel really good.
Take him out very often.. use the same words we use "go pee!"

He will get it. If you don't catch him in the act do NOT reprimand him he will not know what he did anymore and it will just confuse him.
Don't ever hit him or scream at him or shove his face in it. This will just traumatize him and make him fear you. A firm no and being taken outside is all thats needed.

As far as his food, i would ask your vet, if he hates it its possible an allergy. I would try a new food, mix it with the old, but please do consult a vet about that one!

Serena
03-17-2006, 12:41 PM
Hello I am new to the site and already have problems

I have a 3 month old pup we bought from a pet store he is a beagle pug mix a pugle.

No he is a Beagle x Pug mix...Honestly since you got him from a petstore the first thing I am going to say if he has not been to the vet yet he needs to go now.

He is very smart but and here it comes we try to take him as much as we can so he could poop outside but he won't. but as soon as we get inside he runs around like mad and poops. we have now gotten used to knowing when he wants to go but even when we take him he still won't go. I am in Ohio and it's cold I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

How long is he staying outside before you bring him in. Does he run around outside? I fostered a dog that would run around like crazy before finally going to the bathroom. Some dogs seem to have "strange" bathroom rituals.

You said that when you bring him inside he runs around like mad and then has a bowel movement...that running around inside like mad is your clue that he has to go...that clue means its time to go outside immediately.

Since he has soiled indoors already another thing I would ask is if you are using a good pet odor remover to get rid of the scent..Natures Miracle is an excellent product.

Another thing you should take into consideration...he is a petstore pup do you have grass in your yard? The sensation could be totally foreign to him and he may not know how to handle it. Give it some time and make sure the outdoors is a positive place for him.

When you take him outside the focus does not need to just be for him to go potty...when I am housebreaking a pup I find it is far less nerve wracking to do something rather than just sitting there twiddling my thumbs waiting for the dog to "go"..I run and romp with the pup, we play games...when the pup does its business I praise like crazy and make a huge fuss over the pup.

Next he won't eat not the food the pet store gave us not the one we bought. but he will eat his treats.

The vet check I recommended earlier will clear up any medical concerns this may give you...It should also be noted that some dogs will go through a stage where they act picky about their food...He may have decided he likes his treats better and will only eat them...Hold off given him the treats for a while and give him his food...A healthy animal will not starve itself.

Make sure the brand you are feeding is a high quality one...there's no point in wasting your money and unknowingly depriving your pup of good nutrition by feeding poor grade dog food loaded with chemicals and preservatives.

we are now letting him go in his crate wich he seems to hate even when we put him in at night.

How have you introduced the crate to him? Remember he is a petstore pup...he came from a puppy mill more than likely...his whole life has been in a cage...the crate does not exactly have a positive connection for him.

he cries and cries last night I couldn't take it so he slept in bed with me and my husband. He usually sleeps in my son's room.

The sound of a pup crying is heartbreaking but never again give into it...you will only teach him that if he makes enough noise he will get his way...a behavior you will have to correct in the future.

For some reason the sound of a whining adult dog does not tug at the heartstrings in the same way.

Teach him the crate is a positive thing. Your pup should consider it his own personal safe haven...it is his and his alone.

The crate is never to be used in punishment.

One of the biggest mistakes I see in crate training is someone making a big fuss over the dog when they open the door...the dog takes that as being in the crate is a bad thing and its good to be free.

When the crate opens be calm and resist the urge to throw yourself down on the floor to coddle your puppy..playtime can follow in a moment...you just don't want the pup to associate excitement with being let out of the crate..remember the crate is a good thing not a bad thing.

When used properly the crate is a wonderful training tool.

You will however have a bit more difficulty in crate training this pup because of where he came from.

Patience and consistancy are your best bets...make that lots of patience and consistancy.

RR is right on with enrolling in a puppy obedience class.