View Full Version : Not Responding To training tips and punishment
Spera
01-26-2006, 06:07 PM
I just got a one year old pointer/dalmation mix acouple of weeks ago. When I come home she's usually excited to see me and trys to jump on me to try and get to my face. But instead of licking me she trys to bite. She doesn't bite that hard but it's somewhat creepy realizing a set of teeth is reaching to grab your nose or cheek. I push her off and say "No!" but she doesn't listen and trys to jump back on me. I also tried holding her mouth and slapping her nose with acouple fingers while saying "No" but she still lunges and trys to bite, succeeding most of the time. It seems like she's playing because she's wagging her tail even when I push her off and hit her nose saying "No" not in a very playful manner.
What do I do to show her that the world does not revolve around playing rough and that jumping on people and biting is not a good thing to do?:confused:
mojozen
01-26-2006, 06:17 PM
Ignore her. If she attempts to jump up on you turn away from her. Do not look at her or speak to her. Do not even recognize her presence in the room. Just go about your business until she calms down and THEN acknowledge that she exists.
If you look at her, yell at her, touch her any way she is getting what she wants which is to be the center of your attention. If you ignore her she has to figure out that being quiet gets your attention and that you will be happy with her.
You may also want to look into getting her a crate and taking her to some obedience classes to work on the snarkiness. :)
Doberluv
01-26-2006, 06:23 PM
This dog hasn't been shown how to live in a human's world. Dogs act like dogs. That's one of the things dogs do until they are taught. You can't teach a dog anything at all if you slap, grab their mouth and close it, scold harshly. All those things mean nothing what so ever to the dog, exept just one thing: that they learn to distrust who they wish would be their leader. Leaders don't get all flailing around and too reactive about stuff.
There are ways to train and interact with a dog in order to accomplish what I think you'd like to see. These things would be better learned before getting a dog, but since you have the dog, you can do a crash course study and see if that will help. If you are unfamiliar with dogs, your demenor and attitude might not be effective the way it is and you'll need to make some changes.
Here are a few things to get started as far as training ideas/behavior help.
http://www.dogpatch.org/obed/obpage4.cfm
http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/dog.htm
What do I do to show her that the world does not revolve around playing rough and that jumping on people and biting is not a good thing to do?
Without going into a lot of detail right now, suffice it to say, that any behavior you would like to see repeated, give the dog a payoff. Any behavior you do not like, remove the payoff. In this case, she's getting attention from you, be it good or bad. Distract, give an alterative behavior for her to perform and reward for that. Otherwise, ignore, walk away, end all playtime. When she is "good" even for a second, playing without doing all that, let her know. Reward her, but keep it low key. Pop a treat in her mouth. Emphasise the good behavior, don't forget to reward. Make sure she doesn't get a payoff for wild, biting, jumping behavior. If you look at her when she jumps and bites, that's attention. YOu're acknowledging her. Turn and look heavenward. LOL. She doesn't exist. Walk away...playtime over.
There are threads all over this forum pertaining to your type of problem and if you do a search, you'll find lots and lots of information and help.
Doberluv
01-26-2006, 06:24 PM
Mojozen. LOL. We posted about the same time...didn't see yours before. Obedience class is a fantastic idea....use a reputable, gentle trainer.
mojozen
01-26-2006, 06:57 PM
Mojozen. LOL. We posted about the same time...didn't see yours before. Obedience class is a fantastic idea....use a reputable, gentle trainer.
:D
Thanks... I don't have a lot of experience training dogs other than my own... but I've done a lot of reading in other communities. You have some good suggestions too!
amymarley
01-26-2006, 09:15 PM
Also, remember your pup is considered a pup until at least 2 years old, sounds like you are being used for teething and of course, the pup is showing bad behavior. Use positive reinforcement, read all the posts you can find here and be consistant.
Amy
Carolyn
01-28-2006, 04:15 AM
Excellent advice here people well done :) Slightly off topic, but the way you guys deliver your advice has to be described as excellent. There is no judgement, no condescending tone, just valuable and straight to the point advice. We are all here to learn and wow you make it easy :) Sorry just had to add that (I've seen some shockers on other forums LOL)
So I was gonna add my 2 cents worth, but it has been said before me and said splendidly ;P
Ignoring is great, and I agree you really have to pretend she does not exist whatsoever. It's difficult but as stated, even bad attention is still attention. Be quick to reward when she is sitting calmly, but don't make tooo much of a fuss initially. Just a quick praise and treat, whilst she is doing what she is supposed to.
Good luck :)
what i did was if yoshi bit me too hard i'd say ouch loudly and stop everything and walk away. if you watch two dogs playing and one accidentally bites too hard the other will yelp and quit playing. anyway it seems to work. now if i say ouch yoshi will stop whatever and sit down. just don't give the dog more attention of any sort. i will admit it can be hard to walk away from though :/
amymarley
01-30-2006, 06:39 PM
This is just my advice.....I know others will have great advice to give regading the "Ouch" thing. If you are going to start using voice commands (which, in a way, we all do), then I would start reinforcing the word "NO." "NO" has one specific meaning...."doggie, you are doing bad, and I am not going to tolorate this behavior." Using several words like ouch, bad, no, stop etc.... can give the dog mixed signals.
Also, when giving the sit/stay/lay position, I would also include a "release" word, like "O.K."for when YOU are allowing your pup to get up....seems this pup is really smart and trying to push your buttons, make sure the pup knows you are in charge and when he/she does right, really praise.
Amy