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pitbulliest

12-06-2005, 08:41 PM

See?
Everyone that counts always says that dogs are misidentified as pitbulls. Even though Messina came with papers stating that she's an american pitbull terrier, people are asking...

Is she a boxer cross? Is she a german shep/mastiff cross? Does she have lab in her?

Uhm...she's supposed to be an APBT....look at her pics on dogster and tell me guys...lol what do you think...

Keep in mind..she's only 55lbs...and her height is about 2 inches above my knees....and I'm 5'7''...so I dunno how tall that is..but not too big...
Anyways..here's her dogster:
http://www.dogster.com/?45488

yuckaduck

12-06-2005, 08:44 PM

Looks like a pit bull to me. I do not see anything else in her.

Brattina88

12-06-2005, 08:50 PM

Well, I'm definitely NOT an expert, but comparing your dog to the Pit Bulls I have personally seen myself ('in real life' lol) he does appear to be a lot bigger than all of them, but then again maybe its the pics. That's probably why people always ask you, his color resembles a mastiff, that and maybe his disposition? :)

Saje

12-06-2005, 09:03 PM

She looks pit. Like a BIG pit but a pit all the same.

edit: On the find the pitbull website I guessed it right on like #30 or something so I don't know what I'm talking about at all lol

amymarley

12-06-2005, 09:24 PM

Just my 2 cents, she does not look like 100% pit to me at all. If I was seeing her on the street, she would not strike me a full pit, any type of pit, but mixed with something else too.

Beautiful dog though. Funny I see a bit mastiff/and maybe shepard in the first 2 pics, the 3rd, looks a bit boxer (but the lighting is weird).

Zoom

12-06-2005, 09:28 PM

I think the ears are what confuses people...they're not cropped for one and stand up like I've seen a lot of boxers do. But her face and body look very pit to me.

Bowowee

12-06-2005, 09:30 PM

Definitely 100% Pit!

gaddylovesdogs

12-06-2005, 09:54 PM

She looks like pit bull mixed with something else to me. She's so cute!

amymarley

12-06-2005, 10:59 PM

Let's start a pool..haha. Vets get it sooo wrong sometimes, but hit the mark at others. See what they say, esp. if they have several vets in the office. I really, truly don't think your pup is 100% pit at all. But would love to hear is I am right or wrong, better yet, to hear what your dog is period.

rottiegirl

12-06-2005, 11:17 PM

she looks full pit to me! pits can be big or small depending on the blood lines. working lines like "jeep" are a lot smaller than blood lines like "razors edge" for example. pits range from 40 pounds to 150 pounds. the coloring has nothing to do with what breed he might be, because pits can be any color other than merle.

rottiegirl

12-06-2005, 11:19 PM

I think the ears are what confuses people...they're not cropped for one and stand up like I've seen a lot of boxers do. But her face and body look very pit to me.
I definately agree that people are confused because of the ears.

Boxer*Mom

12-07-2005, 11:10 AM

I think it's because her heads not "blocky" and she doesn't have that big pit mouth and smile. Also she would be tall compared to others if when she's standing she's above your knee. She doesn't have that average wide body look either.

http://www.ukcdogs.com/breeds/terriers/americanpitbullterrier.std.shtml

casablanca1

12-07-2005, 12:49 PM

Even though Messina came with papers stating that she's an american pitbull terrier, people are asking...Is she a boxer cross? Is she a german shep/mastiff cross? Does she have lab in her? Uhm...she's supposed to be an APBT....look at her pics on dogster and tell me guys...lol what do you think...Keep in mind..she's only 55lbs...and her height is about 2 inches above my knees....and I'm 5'7''...so I dunno how tall that is..but not too big...

She looks 100% pitbull. I think the recognition problem might be stemming from her size. She's what should be common and normal for a pit bitch, but a lot of people are breeding for size, especially the larger or more macho breeds - grossly oversized Rotties, Labs, pits, etc., have become very common. Also, the popularity of the giant breeds is making everyone else look small.

pitbulliest

12-07-2005, 01:37 PM

thanks alot guys..
a few people have said GSD mixed with mastiff...I saw this picture:
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=5252880

but to be honest...that doesn't even look like a GSD mix in the pic either?..although the appearance is somewhat similar to Messina's even if that's the breed it actually is, Messina has the typical snake bat tail without the extra bit of "tuff", the big ass pit cheekbones and head shape, and she's got a wide chest too, which isn't very GSD like...I guess its because of the coloring and ears like you guys have mentioned that people would think that...any comments on whether she might have GSD?

again, thanks alot...I guess this comes with getting a rescue dog...I don't care, but like I said..curiousity killed the cat..

Oh..this might help..its a pic with her alongside her pittie friend :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/pitbulliest/3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/pitbulliest/2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/pitbulliest/1.jpg

malabui

12-09-2005, 08:29 AM

I still have no idea, if its pure pitbul or not.

Over here people keep mistaking Staffordshire Terriers as PittBulls, which mean the police then come and the poor owners have to explain that they aren't Pittbulls.

Once of the sweetest dogs I've ever met was a Dobermon cross Rottveiler (the owner don't say what it is until people have petted her incase they run away for no good reason)

pitbulliest

12-09-2005, 07:33 PM

WOO HOO..I finally uploaded more pics..maybe these'll be easier to read..lol she's a pitbull damnit!!!! LMAO

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/pitbulliest/a5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/pitbulliest/a3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/pitbulliest/a2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/pitbulliest/a1.jpg
That's her next to my dad..as you can see, she's quite a small dog...not very large..

pitbulliest

12-09-2005, 07:34 PM

Eeek..double post..ok here's the rest of em..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/pitbulliest/a9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/pitbulliest/a8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/pitbulliest/a7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/pitbulliest/a6.jpg

Richard D.

12-09-2005, 07:46 PM

Looks like a small Mastiff to me but a shelter would call her a Pit. When you said she came with papers I wondered what the confusion was but then you mentioned rescue it became obvious. As I'm sure you know people not thinking she is a Pit will only make your life easier. Just telling my family we rescued another Pit made them question our sanity because they really aren't dog people.

rottiegirl

12-09-2005, 07:54 PM

Once of the sweetest dogs I've ever met was a Dobermon cross Rottveiler (the owner don't say what it is until people have petted her incase they run away for no good reason)
oh, how cute. my dog was a rottie/dobe mix, and she was an angel!

Nobody's Fool

12-09-2005, 11:11 PM

Messina looks 100% pit bull to me! She looks an awful lot like Buddy (he's an AmStaff). People ask me all the time if Buddy is a Boxer mix, and even my vet put him down as a Boxer/Lab...... but maybe that was because of BSL.....
Anyway, gorgeous fawn/buckskin Pittie girl! I bet she is loads of fun and a real cuddlebutt!! Too bad about the extreme Canada has gone to in BSL. I hope that it will be reversed soon! (BTW.... do you belong to the Pit Bull Forum?)

Gotta Love Those Pitties!!!!!!
Sara

Brattina88

12-09-2005, 11:33 PM

the coloring has nothing to do with what breed he might be, because pits can be any color other than merle.
People are clueless, around here every brindle dog MUST be a greyhound or a grehound mix. There's no doubt in my mind that a bunch of people would ask if she was a mastiff because of the color. Maddie MUST've been a Golden Retriever when she was a puppy, because numerous people asked me if she was and said it was because of the color. And I thought Everybody knew what a Cocker was lol
As for GSD, I absolutly do not see any Shepherd in your dog, even with my glasses on!

12-10-2005, 12:46 AM

Messina looks Pit to me. She's not particularly typy, especially in the head (I honestly prefer her type of head, the insanely huge, excessively wide heads on some of these show Pits just looks awful.) and the uncropped ears probably throw people off. People also tend to think that any dog with a black mask/muzzle is a GSD or Mastiff.

pitbulliest

12-10-2005, 12:56 AM

LabDad

12-14-2005, 04:26 PM

Looks like a APBT to me. Check out Annie's dogster page. Annie and Messina look very much alike.
http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?i=38659&j=t

Amstaffer

12-15-2005, 09:36 AM

I have had people say similar things to me but usually because my dogs are so friendly that they don't want to believe a pitbull could be so nice. I have had my dogs called everything from Boxers, to Labs to Dane pups....its actually funny

mojozen

12-15-2005, 02:11 PM

She looks like a pit bull to me. People get confused because no one really knows what a pit is supposed to look like. They may think she's a german shepherd because of the black mask, but also because of the "moles" she has on the sides fo her face. My mix has them too. Pits can range in size from the more traditional 30# to 100# behemoths. ;) A 55# pit seems to be the more normal size these days however.

She looks very sweet... and the ears? Meh. My pooch has the rose bud ears (the ones that flop over at the half way mark) but I have seen pure breds with bat ears - the straight pricks that your pooch has.

Beautiful girl however... no matter what she is to anyone who sees her. Beauty and breed is truly in the eye of the beholder! ;)