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nedim
11-08-2005, 04:12 PM
I have a big issue with Peanut and I dont know what else there is to do. She constantly pees around the house. We cannot go one single day without an accident. Heres what I don't understand, I'll take her out and she'll pee and poop and everything, yet an hour later, there will be a huge spot of pee on the carpet. You can see how this tends to get frustrating. What should I do when she pees? Last night while we were playing, she just stops, kneels down and pees about 1 inch from my foot. I had no idea what to do, so I just said "no!". Can someone help me out, I wanna get this problem solved.
BigDog2191
11-08-2005, 04:25 PM
Really, persistence is the key in all sorts of training including house training.
Do you reward her when she goes out? If you don't, do so.
And a trick that worked for me when Rocky peed, scold the pee and let it know that it should be outside and has no place inside. Good luck. Remember, persistence.
nedim
11-08-2005, 04:26 PM
Scold the pee? lol . As in yell at it? Hey, if it works, I'll try it.
Whitedobelover
11-08-2005, 04:31 PM
you know i am not having as many issues with prince and tasneem anymore...
can you crate peanut?
if not then keep an eye on peanut all the times and well if he has the run of the house he will keep it up... you should really keep peanut on a leash at all times so that he doesnt have the run of the house and you can watch peanut at all times... never let peanut out of yoursite... ever... and take him our ever two hours. :D
nedim
11-08-2005, 04:33 PM
I take her out about every two hours. Shes over a year old though, should'nt she be able to hold it?
BigDog2191
11-08-2005, 04:55 PM
Scold the pee? lol . As in yell at it? Hey, if it works, I'll try it.
Sounds weird and stupid, but it's effective. At least give it a shot. :)
nedim
11-08-2005, 04:58 PM
If it works, then no problem. Thanks for the suggestion.
Chithedobe
11-08-2005, 05:17 PM
At a year old, she should be able to hold it for well over 2 hours... Could she maybe have a UTI or something? Just a thought....
I have a visual now of a bunch of frustrated people, bent at the waste with a roll or paper towels screaming at the big yellow spot on their carpet LOL but hey if it works, go for it :-)
Wasn't she trained before Nedim? If she was better and has gotten worse it's probably medical. Call your vet and ask. Her peeing right next to you is either pretty cheeky or a sign of a big problem. Could she be peeing for other reasons? Stress? Nervousness?
nedim
11-08-2005, 10:48 PM
Wasn't she trained before Nedim? If she was better and has gotten worse it's probably medical. Call your vet and ask. Her peeing right next to you is either pretty cheeky or a sign of a big problem. Could she be peeing for other reasons? Stress? Nervousness?
She used to be fine when we got her. Now, she wont even whine or give me any indication that she needs to go out, so I dont think its medical. I'm starting to think its laziness. I dont know what she would be stressed from.
It still could be medical even if she doesn't whine. She may just have to go ... now! (is she going?) I'd still make a call to the vet it's usually free.
When did it start and how long has it been going on?
filarotten
11-08-2005, 11:26 PM
Nedim, I am having problems with Brutus also. He has been perfect no messes after having him for two days. Now, for about two weeks, he has started peeing. He doesn't drop the whole load, but rather does a zig zag line of drops. Then, it is like he suddenly remembers,oh yeah I am supposed to whine if I want out...and he whines. I don't know about the yelling, I just look at him and say you know you are supposed to potty outside. Get outside and potty. He then finishes. For a few days we are fine, then bang here we go again. It is almost like some toddlers. They start playing and either forget, or hold it so long they can't hold it anymore and wait to late. Yuckaduck said "when puppys are about 8 months old their brains fall out." maybe Brutes has fallen out early. I don't know. Whatever, I am keeping the carpet cleaner handy. I hope I can find his brain somewhere and put it back in so this will end quickly.
nedim
11-08-2005, 11:58 PM
It still could be medical even if she doesn't whine. She may just have to go ... now! (is she going?) I'd still make a call to the vet it's usually free.
When did it start and how long has it been going on?
She just peed again in the kitchen. No whining or anything, just got up, went into the kitchen, and came back into the livingroom and sat down. I'll make a call tomorrow when I get home from school.
It started a few months back and has been going on ever since.
filarotten
11-09-2005, 12:07 AM
Hope you get it straightened out. It could be a uti. If it is, she can't help it. Yelling won't help. Good Luck, she's such a sweetie.
nedim
11-09-2005, 12:17 AM
Hope you get it straightened out. It could be a uti. If it is, she can't help it. Yelling won't help. Good Luck, she's such a sweetie.
Thanks, filarotten. Ill call in tomorrow
Yes, definitely have the vet check it out...
But, what I've found works well if you catch them IN THE ACT, is to make some loud noises (i usually go "eeee eeee eeee eee" or "woah woah woah" in a loud voice). not to scare them or scold them, but just suprise them. suprise them enough to get them to stop, then quickly pick her up and run outside as fast as you can and place her in the grass. i usually try to pick the same spot outside so they get the idea that "this is where i pee."
This method does involve having your dog within reach at ALL times when they are loose in the house. If you can't keep her in a confined area with you, then put a leash on her and tie the end to a belt. Continue close supervision as long as necessary.
nedim
11-09-2005, 12:30 AM
Yes, definitely have the vet check it out...
But, what I've found works well if you catch them IN THE ACT, is to make some loud noises (i usually go "eeee eeee eeee eee" or "woah woah woah" in a loud voice). not to scare them or scold them, but just suprise them. suprise them enough to get them to stop, then quickly pick her up and run outside as fast as you can and place her in the grass. i usually try to pick the same spot outside so they get the idea that "this is where i pee."
Lol, Ill give that a shot Elle. Thanks for the tip.
Doberluv
11-09-2005, 12:41 AM
I'd definitely suspect an infection if she's not acting restless first, sniffing around, going to the door, (if she did that before) but instead walking across the room and suddenly going. That with the frequency. Did you say she was pretty reliably housebroken a few months ago?
Watch her like a hawk....maybe keep her off carpeted areas for now, just play with her in the kitchen. I wouldn't yell at the pee. I know people do that, but I think that's off the wall and she probably won't make a connection. It will only make her nervous. Just do like Elle said after checking with a vet on her physical condition...remember to praise like crazy when she goes outside, even give a treat. good luck.
nedim
11-09-2005, 12:45 AM
I'd definitely suspect an infection if she's not acting restless first, sniffing around, going to the door, (if she did that before) but instead walking across the room and suddenly going. That with the frequency. Did you say she was pretty reliably housebroken a few months ago?
Watch her like a hawk....maybe keep her off carpeted areas for now, just play with her in the kitchen. I wouldn't yell at the pee. I know people do that, but I think that's off the wall and she probably won't make a connection. It will only make her nervous. Just do like Elle said after checking with a vet on her physical condition...remember to praise like crazy when she goes outside, even give a treat. good luck.
She'll sometimes walk around and like sniff the floor, but other times, I get absolutely no indication that she needs to go out. I dont get it, she used to be so good, always whined and even yelped when she needes to go out. Now, nothing.
juliefurry
11-09-2005, 01:15 AM
definetely get her checked out. Our Mack, and Shelby, had the same problem. Mack would be great for weeks and as soon as he got some freedom in the house he would start peeing in the house agian. He would even come into the room without warning stare at you and pee. If you made a loud noise to startle him he would just keep staring and going. Shelby had an infection and was given antibotics for it and it got better but she was never one to tell us she had to go out though. She'd always go "hide" the mess in the basement (I think she was trying to blame it on the cats). If she was reliable before and suddenly stopped then maybe something medical. I would get some really good carpet cleaning stuff made specifically for pets and clean the carpets good so she can't smell her pee in the house.
Barb04
11-09-2005, 10:16 AM
I do agree to have the vet check Peanut out. My dog Brandy had bladder problems so it wasn't actually a training problem. Let us know what you find out.
mwood322
11-09-2005, 12:12 PM
My dog did roughly the same thing for months. I finally came to the conclusion she wasn't actually housebroken. She would only pee in the kitchen, but would do it at random times even after going out. She wasn't being stubborn, she just didn't get it. She knew she had peed in the kitchen before, so why not now. In front of me, also not an issue, in her head, I never went nuts over seeing pee in the kitchen.
She lost her house priviledges, and I went back to housebreaking 101. Take dog out, wait for peeing, if good, give the best treat you have. Hot dogs work well. If nothing, bring the dog back in and alternately watch like hawk, or crate. Do not let the dog out of your sight. Repeat as needed. Play outside if there is has been no peeing. Only play inside after peeing outside. Interrupt inside mistakes, take dog out immediately. Make sure the inside is completely clean to keep odors from being a stimulus.
I'd still check for an infection, but Toka was perfect for months then suddenly wasn't. She had been scheduled housebroken, meaning if I was home to take her out no problem, but if I wasn't, or didn't notice her fast enough she went in the kitchen. Though it seemed really random. She now gets ridiculous praise in the morning for going outside. The first outing is bathroom only. Then we go for a hike, and only then she gets to play in the yard until I have to go to work. It's been about 3 months since she peed in the house.
--Mia
Doberluv
11-09-2005, 12:16 PM
"She lost her house priviledges, and I went back to housebreaking 101."
Good advice Mwood. After checked by a vet, you will have to go back to square one and do like you did when she was a younger pup. And go from there. She'll get it reliable eventually, but you have to prevent accidents. Good luck.
yuckaduck
11-09-2005, 12:32 PM
Just a thought Nedium but did this just start? Could it be the weather change? THere has been so much rain and it has been colder. Maybe she does nto want to go outside.
Definantly a vet check because if it is medical then it is easier fixed then training.
Training wise, crate or attach her right to you by a leash and do not let her out of sight. THe second she shows any indication of peeing take her out and reward if she does something outside. If she does start to pee inside, a firm deep manly growling voice NNNNOOOOO and then rush her outside.
frenchboxer
11-09-2005, 02:04 PM
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Training wise, crate or attach her right to you by a leash and do not let her out of sight. THe second she shows any indication of peeing take her out and reward if she does something outside. If she does start to pee inside, a firm deep manly growling voice NNNNOOOOO and then rush her outside.
Agree. When I was training Phoebe as a pup, and I caught her in the act, I would lift her mid-stream, telling her "outside" and put her on the grass outside to finish, even if only a few drops, and when she had finished I would heap praise on her. She was potty trained in a couple of weeks and has never (she is almost 4) ever had an accident in the house.
yuckaduck
11-09-2005, 02:23 PM
Yeah I really do not think yelling at her is a good option, jsut gives you a sore throat. It really has no training value to the situation. If they could understand all our words then maybe that would be different but they cannot so why give yourself that sore throat. Just step back and let her re learn it.
Denaluvscorgis
11-09-2005, 02:29 PM
Hey Nedim...I had problems getting Chloe all the way housebroken, with her it was an attention thing. When she gets outside, she's more interested in seeing what's going on next door on across the street. I'd stand out there with her and say "go potty" and she wouldn't listen. Just be persistant with her....I know how stubborn those little midget dogs can be.:rolleyes:
This is just a thought...could she have a urinary tract infection? Chloe got one after her pups were born...I didn't realize it for a while.
nedim
11-09-2005, 03:16 PM
Thanks for all the great advice everyone, I really appreciate it. At the risk of sounding totally stupid, can someone explain crate-training to me?
My initial thought was that she has a UTI, but a vet check should determine what medical issues she has, if any.
Thanks again for the advice everyone.
yuckaduck
11-09-2005, 03:22 PM
Nedim this is the link that I followed with my crate training.
http://www.ddfl.org/behavior/cratetraining.htm
Found it worked great.
nedim
11-09-2005, 03:27 PM
Thanks for the link, yuck.
Denaluvscorgis
11-09-2005, 04:45 PM
Good luck Nedim!
nedim
11-09-2005, 04:50 PM
Thanks Dena :)
Denaluvscorgis
11-09-2005, 05:27 PM
Want to trade dogs for a while...you can train Chloe not to bark and I'll train Peanut not to pee.;)
yuckaduck
11-09-2005, 05:29 PM
Want to trade dogs for a while...you can train Chloe not to bark and I'll train Peanut not to pee.;)
I'll trade you, if you can teach Yukon to stop being so jealous and peeing. Actually he is really getting better but he has his moments.
Denaluvscorgis
11-09-2005, 05:30 PM
Look at that face though Heather...totally innocent!!;)
yuckaduck
11-09-2005, 07:53 PM
Look at that face though Heather...totally innocent!!;)
Yeah until you turn your back. HEHE HE is not that bad, actually he is pretty darn good now as long as he gets outside for a couple of good exercise sessions. He has pretty muchly stopped his widdling in the house. I say pretty muchly because I do not want to jinx it, the last time I posted good things about him he remodelled my bathroom for me.
Sirius
11-09-2005, 09:19 PM
It was heck house training Dakota. Heck. I mean it was so bad. He was so impatient. It was "Bark" Oh you didn't hear me? Well I'll go here then woman. So frustrating. :rolleyes: But then I learned, fine, you pee, you pay. He peed, he payed ;)
Denaluvscorgis
11-10-2005, 12:25 PM
It is severly frustrating...especially when you have a neat freak for a husband. Now that we have our new floors it's really gotten alot better. Chloe never has accidents anymore and Jack once in a while goes on the throw rug in front of the patio door.