View Full Version : MALTESE TERRIER (mini maltese?)
Atreyu
10-23-2005, 07:21 AM
Hey there people. im new to this forum, im from NSW Australia, and im looking for a breeder to sell me a Maltese Terrirer Puppy ( Male ) as young as possible, Full Breed.. i hear rumours of a breed called Mini Maltese if there is such a breed i would prefer to buy that, Its a Christmas Present for my Girlfriend, so quick replies would be appreciated.. name your price :)
So to sum it all up this is what i am after:
1) Maltese Terrier (Or a mini Maltese if they exist)
2) Male
3) As young As Legally Possible
4) ASAP - Before December
Thank you for letting me into your community.
(i used to own a maltese terrier, he was so good, and well trained.
atm i own a scottish terrier cross chiwowa, german shepard cross labrador and a striaght up chiwowa hehe, just thought i would let everyone know i know how to take care of dogs.)
nedim
10-23-2005, 07:51 AM
If I'm not mistaken, mini-maltese isnt a "real" breed. They're breed by irresponsible breeders who are looking to sell nothing but cute pups and dont care for the health of their dogs. No reputable breeder would even think of selling a mini-maltese, they're just a designer breed. Youre much better off looking for a regular, normal-sized maltese. I mean, they only weigh 6.5-9 pnds, isn't that small enough already?
Love4Pits
10-23-2005, 02:34 PM
I don't have a good feeling about this at all.
Why do you want a very young puppy? Your in for more problems with a puppy less then 8 weeks old.
Atreyu
10-23-2005, 06:05 PM
lol, why do you have a bad feeling about this? :confused: im just saying i want it as young as LEGALLY possible my girlfriend likes puppies and yeah i want it to be a puppy for as long as possible, hence why i like it small, no big deal really, not saying she wont love the dog full grown, but yeah, you know what i mean, i dont wanna buy the dog half way full grown, because we have missed out on half of its life, you know what i mean? i dont know why you would get a bad feeling about this.. im just after a full breed Maltese, i was curious about the "mini maltese" breed because i dont know much about it.
so i s there anyone selling maltese terrier pups??
Tobysmom
10-23-2005, 06:22 PM
Not many people here do any breeding and I don't think the ones that do breed Maltese. Besides a good breeder won't sell their pups online to someone they've never met. You'd be better off looking for a breeder in the area where you live. Also if you find a pup it would be best for it to stay with it mother til it's at least eight weeks old, otherwise it could have issues from being separated too early.
You don't want to buy from someone that sells"as young as possible". I will never bring a pup home before ten weeks,some breeds twelve. Anything before eight weeks is definately bad. You might also want to get it before or after christmas. Dogs as presents seem to turn out badly. She shuold be the one to pick the dog.
As far as I know, there are no Maltese breeders on this forum. I would contact a local breed club (or the one closest to you.) and ask for breeder referrals.
And FYI, if I were the breeder you had contacted with those kind of requirements, I would have turned you down on the spot. For starters, it is obvious that you have done no research on the breed, or you would know that a "Mini Maltese" is just a fad term and that there is only one size for Maltese. "As young as legally possible" is still too young, imo, to get a puppy, especially a toy breed puppy that will mature far more slowly than other breeds. I wouldn't let go of a toy breed pup until 10-12 weeks, ever. They are still VERY MUCH a pup at that age, they are just more mature and less fragile, and they've had more socialization and the necessary period with their dam and littermates, which will prove to be extremely evaluable to the puppy later in life.
And -you- may know how to take care of a dog, but does your girlfriend? After all, this isn't a puppy for you.
I personally wouldn't buy her a puppy for Christmas.. I don't know why but I get a bad feeling every time somebody buys someone else a dog for a gift, especially when they weren't expecting it.
PS - There is a very good "checklist" on this forum, posted by Pitbulliest. I'd check that out before you go looking for a breeder.
Atreyu
10-23-2005, 06:35 PM
i dont mean to say i want a pup before its due time, i feel like im being told off here, all i mean by "as young as possible" i mean i dont want it almost full grown, im after a puppy..
filarotten
10-23-2005, 06:36 PM
I have to agree with everyone that has posted. Not before 8 weeks. Preferably 10.
Go for a regular size maltese. The designer breeds have to many health issues. You said she like puppies, but what happens when it becomes an adult? Just wondering. I actually have a friend that loves puppies. Once they become adults she wants nothing to do with them. We have had many discussions about this. Wrong attitude! Getting a dog is a lifetime commitment. Don't mean to burst your bubble. I think you have good intentions.
Atreyu
10-23-2005, 06:39 PM
She wants the puppy, she says how she wants one all the time, and i told her id get her one sometime, maybe birthday maybe christmas, im not a child, i know what im doing.. sorry im not Mr. I know everything about dog breeds, i just heards someone talkingabout mini maltese so i thought id bring it up.. thanks for the scolding people.. :o
Sorry, not trying to scold, but it's looking like you are not going to be able to purchase a puppy from a reputable breeder (Many of them have fairly long waiting lists, getting a pup by December would be rather unlikely.) and I hate to see irresponsible breeders being supported because somebody wants a puppy "Now and as young as possible".
I don't think I'm going to be able to be of much help in this thread, sorry for even replying.
Atreyu
10-23-2005, 06:43 PM
I DONT WANT A PUPPY BEFORE ITS APPROPRIATE TIME what i mean by LEGALLY is that it will be fine to go without its mother and i wont have any problems, i know my g/f will take car of this dog, she has had one before when she was younger, all i have doenhere is ask for someone to sell me a dog, so far all that has been done is me getting told off about the age of the dog.. i thank those of you who said to contact local breeders..
Atreyu
10-23-2005, 06:45 PM
understood, i know you people care alot about dogs and you dont like dodgy breeders, there seems to be a shortage of maltese pups nowadays i cant find them anywhere..
Your not getting told off,we are trying to teach you something. You are still saying as young as legally possible and most places thats as soon as some horrible breeder will hand it over,maybe even five weeks(and some breeders will insist five weeks is fine). I don;t think they ae a common dog so why not set up a day with a breeder in your area for christmas and go for a visit to meet the parents and what not. Then it won;t be rushed and you'll hopefully get a great dog. They usually have a list of people who want pups so the waits can get long.
Atreyu
10-23-2005, 07:00 PM
thank you that was all i was after hahaha..
i will let you know how i go.
Boxer*Mom
10-23-2005, 07:01 PM
Hey take a look at the thread I posted not too long ago, my mom also wants a maltese. There are links to rescue groups mainly for the east coast adn also the main page. If you tell us where you are located we might can find a recue group near you. :) Maybe you can find one early, and have an early Christmas present.
http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12128
Love4Pits
10-23-2005, 08:03 PM
BTW my sister recently lost her Maltese Baby Doll she was a great dog.
Fran27
10-23-2005, 09:18 PM
Hey take a look at the thread I posted not too long ago, my mom also wants a maltese. There are links to rescue groups mainly for the east coast adn also the main page. If you tell us where you are located we might can find a recue group near you. :) Maybe you can find one early, and have an early Christmas present.
http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12128
He's in Australia ;)
Good luck finding your pup, I suggest doing a search about maltese clubs in your area also and contact them so they can recommend you some breeders. Just stay away from breeders who want to sell the pups before 8 weeks, like everyone told you, after that it's just fine in my opinion.
Keep us posted :D
Ash47
10-24-2005, 04:04 AM
Good luck on your hunt! We aren't here to to scold anyone. Just want to educate and share our knowledge on certain subjects. We can get a little edgy sometimes, but don't take it personally. We are just trying to help.
Maltese are beautiful dogs. Never been around one to find out what their temperament is like, but when properly cared for, their coats are gorgeous. :)
And by the way, my Roxy Mae was a Christmas present. ;) But, I guess it helped that I constantly hinted at getting a small dog and then began hinting at getting a Chihuahua. I got my way, and here we are nearly a year later! My little Christmas angel.
TheWonderPuppies
11-14-2005, 02:23 PM
Ok wellyou could probly find a pupy and if you pay enoug get it when it was a couple of days oldDono do this thoug that is being irresponsible go with a "normal size maltese and make sure you ghet to see at leats both of its parents (helps w/ knowing what the pups temperment might be) my idea is if you do get it for her for Christams insteadof giving her the pupy get her athe stuff she needs to take care of the pupy then TAKE HER WITH TO THE BREEDER so you guys can get a puppy w/ a temperment to suite the both of you (if it is a good breeder it should help you find a pupy that persanality will fit yours ex. you like to play and go on walks a more active pupy if you are a couch potatoe a calmer puppy) Dont yake a pupy under 8 weeks peferably 12 make shure it has its first shots and is wormed when you get him/her and has a health certificate when you get very young pupies they arnt verry well socialized and can have more issues the longer it stays w/ its mom the hapier the puppy also fter you get the puppy take it to the vet within 48 hours after geting the puppy (my best idea is to go to a shelter and get a pupy then you are saving a life they are already fixed and MOSt are healthier and they are up to date on shots (please make sure you have everything you need for the pupy before you bring it home so you arnt scrambling at the last moment and ask whoever you get the puppy from what type of food it was on so that you dont also have to deal w/ a new scared pupy that is also sick to its stomach keep it on that diet for at least a month were it is into its routine then you can gradually change it to the food of its choice. In th elong run you willl have a hapier puppy.(im not trying to badger just inform ) im talking from personal experiance.
TheWonderPuppies
11-14-2005, 02:25 PM
Sorry for the typos *eek* my spelling while typing is getting bad
jsdesilver
09-15-2006, 03:04 PM
hi Ateryu,yes there's mini maltese those are taiwan breeds.
Boemy
09-15-2006, 04:14 PM
Here's what I suggest:
Get your girlfriend a cute stuffed dog for Christmas along with a cute written promise that you're going to buy her a puppy.
Then research the breeds to see what dog would be best for the two of you. It may not be the breed you think it would've been! ;)
Then find a reputable breeder of that breed. Do NOT go to a pet shop whatever you do, they do not have quality puppies. Also, be sure you know how to recognize a good breeder from a bad breeder (sometimes called a backyard breeder.) Backyard breeders are either only in it for the money OR are nice but unknowledgable; in either case, the puppies from backyard breeders will often have health problems. If you need help learning about how to recognize a good breeder, we would be glad to help! :)
Then pick out a puppy together with your girlfriend. It's best that she be part of the process, since she will have to live with the puppy.
Getting a puppy around an "exciting" day like Christmas or a birthday is not a good idea because it can be very stressful for the puppy, plus there are usually lots of things around that he can eat that are bad for him (like ribbons and tinsel.) I recommend getting a puppy a few weeks after the big event, so that it can be introduced to its new home in quiet.
Caren+Bailey
09-15-2006, 04:30 PM
Here's what I suggest:
Get your girlfriend a cute stuffed dog for Christmas along with a cute written promise that you're going to buy her a puppy.
Then research the breeds to see what dog would be best for the two of you. It may not be the breed you think it would've been! ;)
Then find a reputable breeder of that breed. Do NOT go to a pet shop whatever you do, they do not have quality puppies. Also, be sure you know how to recognize a good breeder from a bad breeder (sometimes called a backyard breeder.) Backyard breeders are either only in it for the money OR are nice but unknowledgable; in either case, the puppies from backyard breeders will often have health problems. If you need help learning about how to recognize a good breeder, we would be glad to help! :)
Then pick out a puppy together with your girlfriend. It's best that she be part of the process, since she will have to live with the puppy.
Getting a puppy around an "exciting" day like Christmas or a birthday is not a good idea because it can be very stressful for the puppy, plus there are usually lots of things around that he can eat that are bad for him (like ribbons and tinsel.) I recommend getting a puppy a few weeks after the big event, so that it can be introduced to its new home in quiet.
^^^^^ Now that sounds like a wonderful idea for you and your g/f :)
Then you both get to go and choose a lovely puppy and from a great breeder too :D
savethebulliedbreeds
09-15-2006, 04:37 PM
There is no such thing as a mini maltese. DO NOT BUY ONE!!!! You will either end up with a puppy that will be too small and unhealthy and will most likely not live anywhere close to the age that it should. Or you will be sold a puppy that is way too young to be away from its mother. Bad breeders (ones that sell you tea cup and mini breeds) sometimes will pass off a 4-5 week old puppy as one that is 8-9 weeks old just so you think that it will be small and then you end up with a 9 lb maltese when it is full grown). Chances are probably nil that you will find a puppy from a reputable breeder before Christmas. Why don't you buy a leash, collar, crate and dishes for your girlfriend for Christmas along with a note telling her that you and her can now start looking for her puppy. This way she will be able to pick out the perfect little maltest puppy for her. Toy breeds are small enough, that there is no need for breeders to try and make them even smaller. Don't worry about paying more from a reputable breeder either cause chances are a bad breeders prices are going to be the same if not more than a reputable breeder, PLUS you will get a health guarantee and the satisfaction of knowing that you will be able to count on your breeder if anything happens down the road, a much better quality dog and more years with that dog than you would get from a puppymill or a back yard breeder selling of designer puppies.
Here is a link for you to read about mini and tea cup breeds
http://www.foxstonemaltese.com/teacupmaltese.htm
Boemy
09-15-2006, 05:48 PM
Also, a good site to get a "first look" at a breed is www.yourpurebredpuppy.com .
Here's the page for the maltese:
http://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/reviews/maltese.html
As you can see, the maltese has many good qualities; it is intelligent and playful. :) BUT pay attention to the negatives, too; maltese often have problems with separation anxiety, can be suspicious and fearful if not socialized extensively, may bark frequently, need frequent brushing and combing, and are notoriously difficult to housebreak. This animal behaviorist considers the maltese to be one of the top five most difficult to housebreak breeds.
This is why it's important to research ahead of time and consult with your girlfriend . . . She may want a breed that's easier to housetrain. :)
I don't know how casual/serious you and your girlfriend are, but if you want to have kids at some point (or have kids already), a toy breed may not be the best choice. Toy breeds are very, very fragile. Children can unintentionally hurt them by playing too rough or falling on them. (Young kids do not have the best coordination.)
Again, do a lot of research, pick a great breeder, and remember that a dog can live up to fifteen years or even more, so pick CAREFULLY.
If you want ideas on what breeds are suited to your lifestyle, why not go to the Dog Breeds forum and post to let us know about your life and habits? I'm sure you would get lots of great suggestions. :)
savethebulliedbreeds
09-15-2006, 05:51 PM
Well said ^
Just a note...this thread is over a year old...
savethebulliedbreeds
09-15-2006, 08:47 PM
Ahahahaha, oops lol.
bubbatd
09-15-2006, 10:21 PM
Yup !!! An old one , so I'll re -post an old one !! I had 3 litters that could have gone " home " for Christmas . All except one pup were not surprises so they waited until after Christmas. The one was for a husband who had fallen in love with Bubba and wanted a Golden sooooooo badly !!! I'm in Indiana and they were from IL .... I had pick of the litter and video taped their " Dakota " pushing his little nose out of a wrapped Christmas box then tumbling out of the box. She presented the tape on Christmas day and he burst into tears !! They came and got him the next week .......... needless to say , we all were in tears !! They had 2 lovely little girls and for years I heard from them . How they loved that pup !!
Kanga
09-15-2006, 10:21 PM
Here's what I suggest:
Get your girlfriend a cute stuffed dog for Christmas along with a cute written promise that you're going to buy her a puppy.
Then research the breeds to see what dog would be best for the two of you. It may not be the breed you think it would've been! ;)
Then find a reputable breeder of that breed. Do NOT go to a pet shop whatever you do, they do not have quality puppies. Also, be sure you know how to recognize a good breeder from a bad breeder (sometimes called a backyard breeder.) Backyard breeders are either only in it for the money OR are nice but unknowledgable; in either case, the puppies from backyard breeders will often have health problems. If you need help learning about how to recognize a good breeder, we would be glad to help! :)
Then pick out a puppy together with your girlfriend. It's best that she be part of the process, since she will have to live with the puppy.
Getting a puppy around an "exciting" day like Christmas or a birthday is not a good idea because it can be very stressful for the puppy, plus there are usually lots of things around that he can eat that are bad for him (like ribbons and tinsel.) I recommend getting a puppy a few weeks after the big event, so that it can be introduced to its new home in quiet.
OMGosh that is EXACTLY what my husband did lol
To the OP there are a lot of wonderful breeders in NSW go to dogzonline.com.au and look at the breeders list.
Just remember a dog is for life not just for christmas!!!! You and your girlfriend are the sort of ppl byb's and petshops prey on. The MacDonald's mentality......The I want it today and I want it NOW!!! society of today.
Sorry to sound harsh but I love this breed and NSW is where all these little fluffs can be found in rescue.......More so than any other state. QLD never have any and they are rarely found in Victoria. All because people have not done their homework or they have gotten a cute little fluff and never bothered to train it or maintain it properly and so it grows up with "issues" and are dumped grrrrr Please, please research the breed properly so that you can offer it a good home.
OMGOSH This may have fallen on deaf ears lol I just noticed this thread was started in 2005 Oh well maybe we have helped someone else.....:(