Goldendoodle questions [Archive] - Chazhound Dog Forum

yentna

09-21-2005, 02:26 PM

I'm a new member (obviously), trying to figure out where best to get a golden doodle. Our only contact number for a Utah breeder is out of service and we've had no luck finding her other ways. My BF is allergic, so we need a dog that doesn't shed, but also can handle backcountry skiing with us, so we've chosen the goldendoodle. However, it's difficult to find a breeder here! (Utah) Anyway, I'm happy to have found this forum since we'll be needing information and support for raising our puppy, but for now..........

Does anyone know of a breeder in the Utah area? We are in Park City. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

AmberwayGSD

09-21-2005, 02:30 PM

You should look at a Standard Poodle or Portugese Water Dog Than.Golden doodles are just a over rated mutt.They are not always hypoallergetic.So for someone with allergies a purebred is best.

juliefurry

09-21-2005, 02:31 PM

there are places like puppyfind.com that advertise breeders. Most people here are very leary of finding breeders online. Maybe trying looking in dog magazines to see if any breeders are advertised. Some golden doodles do shed though so be very careful when selecting your pup. Have you considered getting just a regular poodle? They most likely would go for the same price and the can handle the backpacking and swimming and hiking. Me and my husband are getting a standard poodle at the end of this month.

Fran27

09-21-2005, 02:31 PM

I would rethink it... Some goldendoodles shed, some don't (same as labradoodles), so you are not guaranteed to have a non shedding dog at all. I would look at poodles instead if you really want a dog that doesn't shed.

The other problem is that most goldendoodles breeders are not serious, and just breed them for money without making sure that the parents are actually healthy, and they ask way too much for what is, really, mutts.

If you want a poodle/golden mix... you can find lots at your shelters, and it won't cost you $1000 like most of those breeders charge.

But anyway, if you want to see what people here think of those 'designer breeds', you may want to look at this post below :

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8146

nedim

09-21-2005, 02:33 PM

I could go on forever advising you against buying an intentionally bred mixed puppy. No responsible breeder would ever mix two dogs together to make a new breed, its just plain irresponsible. A good breeder will only breed purebreds together to improve the breed of dog. I will however suggest a visit to your local humane society, or shelter. More than likely, a dog that is perfect for you is waiting to be adopted. Dont take this as an insult, because thats not what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to inform you, is all. Please keep us updated. Maybe post a list of characteristics you are looking for in a dog and we can be able to help you.

Gempress

09-21-2005, 02:38 PM

Goldendoodles, temperamentwise, are lovely dogs. But, like everyone else said, their hypo-allergenic qualities are NOT guaranteed. They are just as likely to be like heavy-shedding golden retrievers as they are non-shedding poodles. It's just like with humans: just because your dad has brown hair doesn't mean that you will too.

Go with a purebred standard poodle. Poodles were originally bred as hunting retrievers, so despite their pampered appearance, they are actually great at outdoor activities. And that way, the non-shedding trait will be guaranteed.

juliefurry

09-21-2005, 02:40 PM

Well let me defend this person a little bit. When I first mentioned getting a standard poodle to my husband he just rolled his eyes at me like I was insane. Most people don't realize that poodles are not wussy dogs that need to stay inside by the fireplace 24/7. Standard poodles are quite energetic and can do the backpacking and swimming and hunting thing same as a golden or a lab. Most people just don't realize what kind of a dog poodles are. They were bred to retrieve game from the water and they love swimming. They are very active and intelligent dogs. If your boyfriend is a little unsure of how he would look walking a poodle let him do research and he will see that they are not the wussy dogs that people make them out to be.

yentna

09-21-2005, 02:54 PM

Thanks Julie! And thanks for the comments everyone, don't worry I'm thick skinned and not offended (as if you'd worry, heh). Anyway, my BF isn't really interested in a poodle, though I'm very aware of how surprisingly tough and fun they can be. A family acquaintance in Alaska used to mush a team of poodles in the Iditarod until he got banned (appropriately I think, the dogs hair would freeze to the snow and pull out when on overnight trips). But, they were tough and interesting and smart and curious and fun, so I wouldn't mind a poodle. He's pretty open minded about them, but seems set on the doodle.
And he wants a bigger dog, isn't the portugese water dog pretty small?

qualities we're looking for:

smart
friendly
hypoallergenic
outdoorsy - can take him/her backcountry skiing and camping and biking

Gempress

09-21-2005, 02:56 PM

Has your boyfriend tried allergy shots? Depending on the person, they can work miracles. One of my coworkers is allergic to cats and dogs, but since she started taking allergy shots, she's been able to have both dogs and cats without any problems. That could open up a bunch of opportunities for you.

nedim

09-21-2005, 02:57 PM

Hey yetna, check out this site, it may aid you.

http://www.dogbiz.com/faq-allergies.htm

AmberwayGSD

09-21-2005, 03:12 PM

Theres also a Giant Snauzer,Airdale Terrier,and others also.A portugese WAter Dog is a medium sixe dog same as a poodle.

gaddylovesdogs

09-21-2005, 03:17 PM

Why don't you check out www.petfinder.com. Maybe you could find a golden retriever/poodle mix there to adopt :).

yentna

09-21-2005, 03:21 PM

I'm assuming he doesn't want to be tied to allergy shots since he talks negatively about them, but if he must, he must I guess.

How does one tell if a doodle puppy will shed? (I have no clue, obviously.) I've always had shedding dogs - huskies, shepherds, mutts, labs, etc.

juliefurry

09-21-2005, 03:23 PM

He doesn't want to be tied to allergy shots, but if he must, he must.

How does one tell if a doodle puppy will shed? (I have no clue, obviously.) I've always had shedding dogs - huskies, shepherds, mutts, labs, etc.

I'm guessing what their coats look like as pups (I'm not too sure either). Probably the pups that have more of the curly poodle coat with be the ones that don't shed or shed little. While the pups with the longer retriever coats will be the ones that shed. That's a good question though.

yuckaduck

09-21-2005, 04:16 PM

I'm guessing what their coats look like as pups (I'm not too sure either). Probably the pups that have more of the curly poodle coat with be the ones that don't shed or shed little. While the pups with the longer retriever coats will be the ones that shed. That's a good question though.

Poodles do shed, just not as much and their hair more wool like therefore less allergic.

juliefurry

09-21-2005, 04:24 PM

they do shed but the fur is caught in their coats, which with daily brushing removes the fur that is trapped. They do shed a little but not enough to kill a person with allergies.

yentna

09-21-2005, 04:37 PM

His allergies aren't that bad, it's more a problem with being miserable than with fear of death. ;)

bubbatd

09-21-2005, 04:47 PM

09-21-2005, 05:05 PM

yentna

09-21-2005, 05:09 PM

You've gotten some good advice here....remember, this mix isn't a recognized breed and like all breeds, nothing is guaranteed .... it's a BYB's dream to make money. If you do find a litter, make sure you pay mutt prices. Good luck !! Read up and buy a good puppy book ! Or, better yet, go to a shelter and see which one your BF's allegries don't re-act to !!

It's true that nothing is guaranteed, just trying to play the odds. Looking at the $400 - $500 range if we can find a reputable dealer, about the same as a decent retriever or shepherd, anything more is a rip off. Also depending on what type of dog we get.

And yes, gotten lots of advice, thanks heaps, I think we'll have to frequent this board more often!

Zoom

09-21-2005, 05:12 PM

Make sure you ask why the breeders got into this, especially since it's a "new" breed and EXACTLY why they bred those two dogs together. "Well, one's a pretty poodle and the other is my long-time best friend's Golden" does not count as a good or acceptable answer. Did they do any health checking before the breeding? How much research did they put into the dog's bloodlines? What type of care have they given the bitch since being bred? Do they have a health guarantee, if so, for how long and will they unquestioningly take back any dog at any time for any reason?

Fran27

09-21-2005, 05:28 PM

It's true that nothing is guaranteed, just trying to play the odds. Looking at the $400 - $500 range if we can find a reputable dealer, about the same as a decent retriever or shepherd, anything more is a rip off. Also depending on what type of dog we get.

You won't find a good breeder selling retrievers or shepherds so cheap. It's more like $800 usually, and doodles seem to be always more expensive.

In any case, here is a link about what makes a good breeder :

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=787

AmberwayGSD

09-21-2005, 05:51 PM

Thats true my GSD was $1200 for Show-Breeding Quality.Her Pet Quality were $800

bubbatd

09-21-2005, 07:47 PM

PLEASE don't pay that much for a mutt !!! The last I looked into getting a female to continue my line, The pups were $1000....I wanted the line, but would have to have a co-owner and show. If I had gotten a pet quality pup but with all checks etc..I would have had to have her spade.....That's when I gave it up.

yuckaduck

09-21-2005, 08:38 PM

Do not buy from a backyard breeder, unless health and temperment mean nothing to you. Please you have gotten great advice here heed it!

yentna

09-21-2005, 09:01 PM

AmberwayGSD

09-21-2005, 09:11 PM

Standard Poodles are nice.If you dont like the typical Poodle clip you can get it done in a Puppy Cut instead lol.

blue

09-21-2005, 09:22 PM

A family acquaintance in Alaska used to mush a team of poodles in the Iditarod until he got banned (appropriately I think, the dogs hair would freeze to the snow and pull out when on overnight trips).

I remember making fun of that guy everytime I heard about it on the radio. Not knowing that about the hair I allways thought it was unfair they didnt let him and his dogs compete.

yuckaduck

09-21-2005, 09:31 PM

Zoom

09-21-2005, 09:37 PM

Hey good deal! And in my own personal opinion, I like the puppy cut much better in general anyway. A little pouf on the top of the head kind of keep the 'poodle' look, but it's a lot easier to keep care of.

yentna

09-21-2005, 11:12 PM

I think we've decided to keep our eyes on the local shelters, and see if an American Standard or a Portuegese Water Dog show up. Then check them out. Time will tell, and pics shall be posted for sure. I'm so excited - my last dog (an accidental cross between a Norweigen Elkhound and a Scottish terrier) died three years ago and it's been wierd to be dogless, and the BF has been dogless for a few years as well, :(. I was driving today and just kept thinking how nice it would be to have a dog in the car with me. Random, but still.

bubbatd

09-21-2005, 11:40 PM

Good girl and good luck !!!

Ash47

09-22-2005, 12:39 AM

If no luck with the Poodles, Giant Schnauzer is a great consideration. Beautiful. Tough. Protective. Loving. VERY Smart. Playful.

bubbatd

09-22-2005, 12:52 PM

What ever they were it was a lost litter as far as I went! He had contacted me with his female's first heat and I told him to wait until the dog was over 2 with all her clearance, papers etc approved by me. This he did. So with all this and my stud fee he was a real loser .....

Fran27

09-22-2005, 01:04 PM

Maybe you could contact a rescue?

juliefurry

09-22-2005, 01:38 PM

I'm not going to buy from a backyard breeder, gosh. The advice has been good, we'll take it. In fact, the funny thing is that when I sent my BF to this thread, he emailed me "um...I'd like a standard poodle, I thought you didn't like them." Ironic, so maybe we'll get a standard now! Miscommunication of a funny sort. Plus your advice is helping push that way.....

YEAH! Standards are awesome! I'm getting mine in like two weeks and I CAN'T wait. My husband's getting excited too, and he's the one that was too "manly" to have a poodle to begin with. I think your boyfriend will be pleasantly surprised with a poodle they are really awesome.

yentna

09-22-2005, 01:43 PM

No poodles at any of the shelters and rescues in Utah, well, no Standards. Lots of toys and miniatures, but they'd get lost in the snow here! We'll keep looking for sure. Did find a puppy goldendoodle, in foster due to health problems. How much of a hassle is a dog with diabetes? Just curious, I think we'll still probably go with a standard (thorougly researching any breeder unless we adopt from a shelter), but he is really cute! (Bleeding heart I am sometimes.) http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=4543954&adTarget=&SessionID=4332eb7f19fd0740-app4&display=&preview=1&row=0&tmpl=&stat=

AmberwayGSD

09-22-2005, 01:44 PM

YEAH! Standards are awesome! I'm getting mine in like two weeks and I CAN'T wait. My husband's getting excited too, and he's the one that was too "manly" to have a poodle to begin with. I think your boyfriend will be pleasantly surprised with a poodle they are really awesome.
I bet you are getting excited.We want lots of pics ok.Have you decided on a name for her yet.

suzilex

09-22-2005, 02:30 PM

juliefurry

09-22-2005, 02:31 PM

I bet you are getting excited.We want lots of pics ok.Have you decided on a name for her yet.

I will have SO many pictures to post by the time we get back from picking her up so don't worry (I'll probably bore you guys out). No name for her yet, it's a toss up between Onyx and Lexie though.

Zoom

09-22-2005, 02:34 PM

I vote Onyx, because Lexie is a very common name and you don't want your dog getting confused with everyone elses, now do you? ;)

juliefurry

09-22-2005, 02:42 PM

I vote Onyx, because Lexie is a very common name and you don't want your dog getting confused with everyone elses, now do you? ;)

no, I don't. We are looking for a name that isn't all that common because we like our dogs to be...unique. Like I still to this day haven't heard of another dog named Hannah (not to say there isn't one) and when people find out her name they are just like "why on earth did you name her that?"

yentna

09-22-2005, 02:49 PM

Have you thought of a giant schnauzer they are great dogs very energetic and versatile they don't moult and are recomended as hypoallergenic.Ithink one of these would fit your bill nicely. They are used as police dogs in Germany.Also Russian Blacks are good too.
Sue

Hmm, hadn't really considered a giant schnauzer, I'll have to look them up. Russian Blacks? I've never heard of them.

Also, has anyone had a dog with diabetes?

juliefurry

09-22-2005, 02:55 PM

I never heard a lot about it. I have heard it is quite costly to treat at the beginning while they are trying to figure out the correct doseage of whatever medicine is administered.

yentna

09-22-2005, 02:58 PM

A surprising number of people say they're inter*ested in Giants because some member of the family (usually a child) is "allergic to dog hair", but they've been told that "Schnauzers and Poodles don't shed, so there's no problem". Such breed promotion to the con*trary, the idea that Giants never shed and therefore are non‑allergenic is an unfortunate myth, without medical or scientific basis. While regular stripping and plucking can reduce to a minimum hair shed by the well-*groomed Giant on clothes and furniture, an experienc*ed breeder‑owner gives a more forthright picture: "If Giants don't shed, where do all those little heaps of black hair come from that accumulate in the unswept corners of my house?" A check with an allergist con*firms that the usual "allergic to dogs" reaction is not breed‑specific. So if there's an allergy problem and your kid sneezed and broke out in hives until you got rid of your gundog or German Shepherd, don't look to the Giant Schnauzer as some kind of miraculous excep*tion.

http://www.giantschnauzerclubofamerica.com/Rescue/about-breed.htm

Sigh, no go there. :( They are beautiful though! And I like the protective part for sure.

Zoom

09-22-2005, 02:58 PM

It will require much more care than the average dog and there are some boarding places that won't take a diabetic dog because of all the things that can happen. Insulin levels need to be monitored, shots given, food prepared...it can be done, but it's a lot more work, and there is the increased risk of blindness and seizures.

yentna

09-22-2005, 03:00 PM

I never heard a lot about it. I have heard it is quite costly to treat at the beginning while they are trying to figure out the correct doseage of whatever medicine is administered.

http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=4543954&adTarget=&SessionID=4332eb7f19fd0740-app4&display=&preview=1&row=0&tmpl=&stat=

This puppy is just so cute, I emailed them for more information to see what they had to say about his activity level and so on. I have some experience giving dogs shots, but it's been awhile. I think he's probably got the dosage for his size figured out right now, but......I'm still just curious. I feel bad for him too, because what are his odds of getting adopted???? We probably won't adopt him either, but I figured it's worth the checking out.

Edit - oops, wrong linky.

juliefurry

09-22-2005, 03:04 PM

it is definetely worth checking out. I mean if you have the time to administer shots he should be ok. Plus they'll probably show you how to do it at the shelter.

Mordy

09-22-2005, 07:57 PM

How does one tell if a doodle puppy will shed?

you won't know until the dog is fully grown and has its adult coat. that's the sad thing about this whole thing. people buy these dogs and have no guarantee, despite what the "breeder" claims. then the dog grows up, ends up with a coat that is not "hypoallergenic" (no such thing anyway) and what do people do? make a choice between living with allergies, or dumping the dog.

most doodle breeders only sell F1 crosses anyway, meaning the puppies resulting from breeding a poodle to a golden or lab, etc. - this is not even a "real" doodle, it's a fad crossbreed.

i wouldn't say that all breeders who breed goldendoodles or labradoodles are bad, unreputable folks, but a real doodle breeder does not just produce F1 crossbreeds, he (or she) will develop his "breed" by carefully planning a breeding program and breeding "doodle to doodle" down the line, until the dogs breed true in appearance, coat type etc.

yentna

09-22-2005, 09:21 PM

Thanks Mordy and Julie, and everyone else. I do appreciate the time you've spent helping me...I think we're getting closer to a decision. Anyway, I'll be offline for the weekend, but please post any more advice or ideas, check out that puppy link I put up and let me know what you think, and so on. I'll be back on to see what you all have to say sunday night or monday morning. Cheers!

joce

09-23-2005, 12:25 PM

My pound has an older poodle right now. Looks big to me. Definately needs groomed though. http://www.loraincounty.us/website/index.asp?webpageid={ACC7C3DA-99C1-4EE0-B8E9-9AA9E3A1218B}
copy and paste the link :)

BlackDog

09-23-2005, 01:55 PM

I'm a new member (obviously), My BF is allergic, so we need a dog that doesn't shed, but also can handle backcountry skiing with us, so we've chosen the goldendoodle.

Expect to find mixed results with mixed breed dogs. The only garentee they have is a high price. There are many established purebred breeds out there that have those characteristics you want. And most of them cost less than the Goldendoodles I've seen. Plus they are usually healthier, depending of who you buy from, have better temperaments, and are easiler to come by.

poodlesmom

09-23-2005, 07:20 PM

When people first heard I was getting a standard poodle I was on the receiving end of alot of groans and whatnot about why would I want a wussy dog like a poodle, etc., etc.!

Then I got Farley and all those same people were so surprised to see that he was in fact a "regular" dog who loved to retrieve, swim, romp & play. Then 2 yrs later we added Chloe to our family. In fact my brother, 6'3", 250+# now wants a standard poodle of his own! :)

This breed is a pure joy and I have no doubt one would happily keep up with you & your boyfriend's activities. They are also a pleasure to train - out of all the dogs I have had over the past 40+ years they have been the easiest. :)

joce

09-23-2005, 09:42 PM

yentna

09-25-2005, 03:16 PM

And not surprisingly when they updated the site today he was already gone :) I've seen them in my shelter and the pound quite often. I think there must be a bad brreder around here because I've always heard they are hard to find. Poor doggies.

So sad - I just got home a bit ago, went to look at that link, and you're right, he's gone. Oh well, we've applied to adopt that doodle puppy, see if we get approved or not. If not, we'll keep looking, probably for a standard poodle. Grin.

yentna

10-05-2005, 04:12 PM

So we applied to adopt the Goldendoodle puppy, Cooper, from a rescue, but haven't heard anything at all in two weeks. What's the etiquette? I emailed them again but did not get a response, though my first email inquiring about the dog resulted in an immediate response (telling me thanks for my thoughtful inquiry, but they couldn't talk about him to me until they had an application).

Two other rescues we looked at, for other dogs, were very prompt in their responses, one even approving us after a few days, but we want this dog! It's frustrating. Is it a sign that they aren't on top of things to not even get a "we've got your application, give us x amount of time to review it"?

http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=4769812&adTarget=&SessionID=4 3333f0015f29552-app4&display=&preview=1&row=0&tmpl=&stat=

Zoom

10-05-2005, 04:46 PM

Keep in mind that most if not all rescues are run by volunteers who have their own full-time jobs and families to deal with. Plus there's probably a mountain of applications on top of yours to dig through. I would give them one more week and then send a very polite "I hadn't heard anything, so I was wondering..." email.

Fran27

10-05-2005, 04:51 PM

I would email them now. Worst thing it will do is show them how much you want that pup!

yentna

10-05-2005, 05:08 PM

True, and we really really do want that pup! I keep having dreams about him and about dogs....i.e. dreams where a little girl is promised a puppy for Christmas, then tries to hide her tears when she opens the box and it's a puzzle, while trying to thank the evil aunt that went back on her word. Crazy, no?

Well, I emailed them, and if I haven't heard anything by next monday will email them again. The phone doesn't go to people, but each option to a voicemail, so I'll stay away from that for a while. We are just worried that by the time they get to our application, he'll be adopted (good for him, bad for us). :)

bubbatd

10-05-2005, 06:37 PM

Why would a puppy be in rescue ??

Whitedobelover

10-05-2005, 07:15 PM

allergy shots are expensive LOL... my father takes them and they are 150 everyday he takes em..

yentna

10-06-2005, 10:42 AM

Why would a puppy be in rescue ??

'Cause he has diabetes, so I assume the original owner, when he/she found out, didn't want him anymore.

And regarding allergy shots, Brad is usually fine with clariton or other OTC allergy meds, and he only had problems with dogs that shed a lot, while they are shedding, especially if they are dirty. Otherwise, he's typically fine. Short hair, non-shedding, or clean dogs he's ok, so hopefully wouldn't need the shots! But then, we've got good insurance, so if he needed them they might pay, and want a poodle or doodle to just minimize the chances.

bubbatd

10-06-2005, 07:54 PM

I personally wouldn't take on a puppy with medical problems ..... it's bad enough when they develop them later in life. I feel sorry for the pup... but it's the breeder's problem .

yentna

10-11-2005, 06:08 PM

So, the rescue never got back to me, three weeks now. Two phone calls, one email, and the application. Brad and I gave up on Cooper, did several petfinder searches Thursday, and applied for seven dogs we were interested in. Not all at once, but applied for a couple, then when we heard back that they were adopted already or sick and unavailable for a while or whatnot, applied for another couple. Mostly standard poodles and a couple mixes. And, in TWO days we had seven rescues / shelters respond to us! If seven could get back to us that quickly, even just to inform us that the dog we wanted was unavailable, why couldn't that rescue get back to us? I'm very disappointed in them. :(

ANYWAY, good news, we've adopted a dog! His name is Jean Luc, and he's a Giant Schnoodle......I giggle every time I say that name! A schnoodle, who would have thought of that combination? But when we saw his picture and read his bio, we were sold. We were just doing searches for "standard poodle," and he came up right after we'd been told the last dog we'd applied for was already gone. I immediately emailed the shelter, and in two hours had the response requesting that I call for an interview. The next day, after an hour of rigorous interviewing, he was ours! Timing is everything, we were the first ones to apply that qualified! I'll post pics and a bio after we pic him up this weekend - he's in california.

P.S. He's healthy too......thanks bubbatd!

Fran27

10-11-2005, 06:33 PM

Woohoo! I'm glad for you :) Can't wait to see pics.

But it sucks that they never got back to you about Cooper.

bubbatd

10-11-2005, 09:48 PM

I'm so glad you rescued and didn't buy !!!! Anxious for pictures !!!

sylvia liebrechts

10-12-2005, 01:07 AM

i do wonder why do all these breeders start breeding new "breeds" It is a sort of hype having a whateverdoodle?
some breeds should not be mixed together ..; and if everybody is already complaining about the "bad breeders, puppyfarmers" etc ... why getting them a new "market"?
i breed labradors, difficult already to get healthy good ones, as there are many genetic disaeses in the breed , so we do all sort of terst ... these been tested for what ......? checked for what ? any proof non allergic?

and YES i also run a retrieverrescuecenter .... most dogs we get in are the mixed ones ... so we are so afraid of what we will get in future .... the lab, golden etc doodles .... when they are not the flavour of the week anymore ... it is up to us to get them new homes ..... think twice! there are so many breeds already, why waiting for a new created one??
maybe something to thinka baout before rushing into a new (?) credated breed'?)

yentna

10-13-2005, 10:44 AM

Thanks guys/gals! We're so stoked, already bought the food he's on (it's Purina One, so we'll wean him off that and onto something a bit better, doing research right now to decide what food), bought supplies, toys, etc. Leaving TOMORROW morning to drive to Cali and get him!

sylvia liebrechts: Yes, I think the doodle breeds are definately a fad right now, but it also makes me think of history when dogs were being bred for a certain sport, use, etc. I would think (but don't know) the Doodle craze started by someone genuinely trying to make more varieties of hypoallergenic dogs available and maybe with the hope of less likely genetic problems (though that's not guaranteed of course since the parents have genetic problems). Maybe in a few generations the breed will be more reliable, who knows. I'm not a fan of overbreeding of course, that's why we adopted instead of buying. Grin!

When we get back, I'll post more personal pics of Jean Luc - such a cutie!!!!!

Fran27: It does suck that the shelter with Cooper never got back to us. After three weeks, including two phone calls and two emails from me to them with no response, I sent an email telling them how disappointed we were. The general gist was:
"...yes, I know you are run by volunteers and I understand you're busy, but it's been 3 weeks with no response. How do you expect to find homes for dogs when you never get back to applicants? 7 shelters/rescues - one run by a woman all alone - got back to us last week within 24 hours. Please understand how frustrating it is to be constantly waiting for any word, not knowing if you needed info from us or if he'd been adopted, anything. A one line email updating us would have been so helpful. I hope in the future you can realize how important a human touch can be to applicants. Yadda yadda." It was a little harsh I guess, and I feel a bit bad about it, but guess what! 20 minutes later I got an email. They said they haven't even been able to go through Cooper's applications, he's still being fostered. To me, that says they are taking on too much to even be of help! It's a lofty goal to help dogs, but if they have too many to be able to find homes for, it defeats their purpose.

SHADOW_THE_STAFF

10-13-2005, 10:56 AM

Any Pics Yet?

yentna

10-13-2005, 11:13 AM

Here is a pic of our Jean Luc from his adoption site:

See those feet? He'll have good use for them in the snow out here this winter. :D

http://www.chazhound.com/pictures/showphoto.php?photo=6716&cat=604

yentna

10-13-2005, 11:45 AM

And another, look at that adorable face!
http://www.chazhound.com/pictures/showphoto.php?photo=6717&cat=500&ppuser=6036

So I can't seem to get the linkage to my pictures working (they only work when the website is open even though it's up all the time), and for some reason it won't let me post an attachment of the picture. Sorry!

Real pics to come later.

Edit: I uploaded them to Chazhound galleries, so once approved should work, hopefully! I'll be back to fix it.