View Full Version : I've been wanting to be a breeder
Richie12345
08-23-2005, 12:10 AM
There! It's off my chest! I've been looking in this forum Topic every so often to see if I could learn more about what it's like to breed... anyways, I finally said what I've been wanting to do, LOL. I'll most likely never breed :(, but it's nice to dream about :D. LOL, this whole thread is so embarassing for me :o, lol.
Ild like to be a Newfie breeder. Only reason is my dad had a Newf when I was just a young pup.
Roscoe was a great dog.
What's embarrassing about it? (Eh, mebbe it's a guy thing. :p)
I am SO looking forward to breeding, not so much because I want puppies running around the house (That'd be wonderful too) but because I think, in time, my dogs will have a big impact on the breed.. That's exciting to me.
SHADOW_THE_STAFF
08-23-2005, 09:28 AM
I thought about breeding before we found about shadows condition, but I didnt really fancy the thought of it, maybe cos she's a bitch and I think of her as my little girl, thought thought of some dog.......no couldnt do it. Mind you the vet told us what she has is in no way hereditory, it was just one of those things, so technically if she was healthy in all other area's i could. But no I still would want to put her through that. Prob being selfish, i just dont want to share her!
Renee750il
08-23-2005, 10:18 AM
Richie, there's no shame in wanting to someday be a top-notch breeder! One thing is for sure, you've got some excellent friends here to help mentor you. Just learn everything you possibly can. But first you've got to discover which breed is "yours."
Fran27
08-23-2005, 10:19 AM
I want to see puppies grow up personally. I'll probably foster a pregnant female dog at some point to make sure I forget the idea, lol.
showpug
08-23-2005, 10:23 AM
Richie...I too dream of the day I breed my first litter. It's years away and I am already researching stud dogs! LOL! I just can't imagine spending this much time on earth and dying without leaving my mark on the breed that I have grown to love more than anything. I want to know that I died leaving pugs a better breed or at least tried my hardest to preserve what they are known for and what I love about them...
Richie12345
08-23-2005, 04:21 PM
But first you've got to discover which breed is "yours."I know, I haven't made that "connection" with any breeds yet. I can't wait till I do :D
Richie12345
08-23-2005, 04:23 PM
Richie...I too dream of the day I breed my first litter. It's years away and I am already researching stud dogs! LOL! I just can't imagine spending this much time on earth and dying without leaving my mark on the breed that I have grown to love more than anything. I want to know that I died leaving pugs a better breed or at least tried my hardest to preserve what they are known for and what I love about them...Yeah, that's the same reason I want to breed, mostly to improve one what I like bout them. There are many breeds that have their problems, I just gotta find which one I want to help. If that makes any sense
juliefurry
08-23-2005, 04:27 PM
I thought about breeding Hannah for a short time and realized we didn't have the time, money, or anything else that would be needed to breed at this point in our life. I love labs but don't think they are the breed that I would want to venture into breeding with. I really haven't had enough dog research to find my right breed yet. Maybe once the kid(s) are grown I could look into it more but that is a far way away yet.
Mordy
08-23-2005, 04:37 PM
there's no shame in admitting that, richie! :)
i know you are the kind of guy who'd try hard to do everything right, and not just do some back yard thing.
you have the advantage of still being young (sheesh, i sound like i'm older than dirt, and i'm only 33 lol). look around at dog shows, decide on a breed (or at least group) that interests you, then try to find a mentor. get into junior handling. depending on your breed/group of choice, check out hunt tests, herding trials, earthdog trials, schutzhund/ring sport or whatever your breed excels in.
you have a number of years to work on this before you find your own place to live and make your own decisions in life. it's the best time!
I hope that you go into breeding with your eyes well open, and with a lot of research behind you, personally after having dogs for nearly all of my 48 years I never even thought "I want to be a breeder" as if it was a profession?, the only reason I ended up breeding was because of how my breed interacts with other dogs. I wanted more dogs, as my breed does not always get on great with a dog/bitch of the same sex, and as I already had a dog and a bitch my best option was to research for a sire(which took me a long time) mate my bitch and keep one of the bitches out of that litter, this way mother and daughter have better chance of getting on than me buying in another bitch, luckily my bitch was of good quality passed all the health test, otherwise I would not have bred. I have no objection if someone breeds and improves a breed, I do have a problem with someone that just wants to breed for the sake of breeding with no idea of what they are in fact breeding and what damage they can do to a breed. persaonlly I also think someone should be involved with a breed for a good few years before they embark on a breeding programme, get to know lines inside out, know the faults,try to eradicate any health problems etc, if they are not aiming to do this they should refrain from breeding. of course this is all my opinion, and I am sure others may differ
Mo
Richie12345
08-23-2005, 06:58 PM
there's no shame in admitting that, richie! :)
i know you are the kind of guy who'd try hard to do everything right, and not just do some back yard thing.
you have the advantage of still being young (sheesh, i sound like i'm older than dirt, and i'm only 33 lol). look around at dog shows, decide on a breed (or at least group) that interests you, then try to find a mentor. get into junior handling. depending on your breed/group of choice, check out hunt tests, herding trials, earthdog trials, schutzhund/ring sport or whatever your breed excels in.
you have a number of years to work on this before you find your own place to live and make your own decisions in life. it's the best time!I love the working breeds, I would love to improve on them. Maybe I'm wrong but haven't breeders worried more on looks than ability for working breeds?
Richie12345
08-23-2005, 07:01 PM
I hope that you go into breeding with your eyes well open, and with a lot of research behind you, personally after having dogs for nearly all of my 48 years I never even thought "I want to be a breeder" that's why I'm embarassed to admit it :)
persaonlly I also think someone should be involved with a breed for a good few years
lol, ofcourse I'm gonna to do that!!!
Mordy
08-23-2005, 07:20 PM
Maybe I'm wrong but haven't breeders worried more on looks than ability for working breeds?
that really depends on the breeder and their breeding philosophy.
if you have a person who breeds [insert breed] and never does anything more than getting conformation championships on them, they don't care about the whole dog. yeah, correct conformation is important for a dog to do it's job, but if you look at the dogs in the conformation world, there are many who, for all their "good looks" wouldn't be able to work correctly anymore or just have a plain bad temperament (and temperament is very much hereditary). prime examples i can think of are your typical show line collie, lab or dachshund. in the conformation ring it's all about what look is "popular", and that can change quite a bit over the years - again i cite collies and the weird little "pig eyes" that are currently in favor. horrible.
in my opinion, a dog bred for the betterment of the breed has titles at both ends of its name (meaning conformation and performance) and is involved in all areas of the field the breed excels in. there is no reason why even dogs that are mostly just companion breeds can't prove their worthiness in venues like for example obedience, therapy work, or agility.
showpug
08-25-2005, 01:11 PM
Richie... keep in mind that there are some breeds that still exist today that don't really have an avenue or means to obtain a title in which they were originally bred. For example, the Bullmastiff or the Great Dane. Last time I checked there were no anti-poacher competitions for the bullmastiff or boar hunting competitions for danes in which they could obtain a title. So, although I do agree that the best scenario for breeding is taking into consideration the "whole dog" and obtaining titles that apply to your breeds purpose when possible, keep in mind that for some, it is not as easily available. It is a lot easier for hunting, herding, hound and terrier breeds to obtain titles whereas it's not as easy with some of the working breeds, non-sporting or toys.
poeluvr
08-25-2005, 01:29 PM
i wanna be a breeder too, hopefully ill get enouh experience to be one.. either st bernard(i think im getting one in a yr or 2) ...so i guess ill be able to learn about them that way too, or i wanna breed poms?
yuckaduck
08-25-2005, 01:30 PM
We were going to breed with Yukon, we were going to buy a female, assuming all health checks were good that is. Then we figured out he had a crappy temperment and a herina that required surgery, well that ended that dream for now. But we will look into purchasing acceptable breeding stock when the kids have growen up abit more because our time is limited and that would not be good for a litter of pups requiring proper care and socialization.
Richie12345
08-25-2005, 02:39 PM
We were going to breed with Yukon, we were going to buy a female, assuming all health checks were good that is. Then we figured out he had a crappy temperment and a herina that required surgery, well that ended that dream for now. But we will look into purchasing acceptable breeding stock when the kids have growen up abit more because our time is limited and that would not be good for a litter of pups requiring proper care and socialization.good luck
Richie12345
08-25-2005, 03:59 PM
It doesn't matter anyways, I have lots of time to think about this
I know, I haven't made that "connection" with any breeds yet. I can't wait till I do :D
When you do, be prepared for an obsession unlike any other. :)
Richie12345
08-25-2005, 05:25 PM
When you do, be prepared for an obsession unlike any other. :)Can't wait
gaddylovesdogs
08-25-2005, 05:40 PM
I say find your breed and if it's really what you want to do - improve the breed - do it!
I don't know how ya'll feel 'cause I'm a rescue nut LOL I'd just get a litter of pups from a shelter and adopt them out. I don't think I'd want to go through the whole breeding and birth process.
BigDog2191
08-25-2005, 07:51 PM
I always thought it would be a cool to breed German shepherds. The Monks would probably be my mentors.
skyhigh
08-25-2005, 10:44 PM
The German Shepherd pup i have now has a great temperment. When she's a little older and if she passes her hips and elbows and gets a good survey, I might look into it. I think i could improve the breed with her. But, as you know, im only 13. I'll be 17-ish when (if) she can have her first litter. By then I could do 4 years of research and all. But, on the other hand, look out there. So many homeless dogs. If i add to the over population, i must help take some out. I want to be a vet when im older and have a shelter next to it. So that will all help. Anyway, dreams.
Richie12345
08-26-2005, 12:30 AM
I don't think I'll even consider breeding a dog till I hit my 30s maybe 20s.
Richie12345
08-26-2005, 12:38 AM
You know, if I were to pick any breed right now, I think it would be a husky. I have ALWAYS loved them since I watched Balto when it was in theaters. I have always admired their beauty...
showpug
08-26-2005, 09:14 AM
The German Shepherd pup i have now has a great temperment. When she's a little older and if she passes her hips and elbows and gets a good survey, I might look into it. I think i could improve the breed with her. But, as you know, im only 13. I'll be 17-ish when (if) she can have her first litter. By then I could do 4 years of research and all. But, on the other hand, look out there. So many homeless dogs. If i add to the over population, i must help take some out. I want to be a vet when im older and have a shelter next to it. So that will all help. Anyway, dreams.
That's fantastic that your GSP has a great temperment and that is something worth preserving and passing on, but keep in mind there are many more important factors that go into deciding to breed. Good temperment and passing health tests are just a few of the reasons that should justify breeding a dog. In my honest opinion a dog should have a title of some sort and should have to prove itself in confirmation and if possible some avenue that shows it's original purpose. And, remember that even at 17 you may have a lot of the knowledge needed to breed a litter, but you may not have the funds $ or the time!! If you are truly interested then start looking into showing her and getting a working and or confirmation title on her, that way you are not breeding in a vacuum where only your opinion matters. Good luck to you!! :)